The Electro-Gravity Energy Extractor
- Will it work?
If you put a battery in a bowl of water bubbles start appearing at the terminals. The water is being disassociated into its components Hydrogen and Oxygen. This is called electrolysis. I asked myself what would I observe if this was at the bottom of the ocean instead of on the kitchen table? Perhaps the bubbles of gas would be different sizes and possibly more gas would go into solution rather than express itself as bubbles. But, and this is the crucial question: Would the same voltage and current do the same amount of disassociation? The volumes under pressure of course would be much smaller, but is the mass the same - or similar?

As at present I don't know the answer to this question I'm going to speculate that the disassociation is not very pressure sensitive, and that the same applies for the creation of gas molecules from oxygen and hydrogen ions.

If this is the case we can tap a practically infinite source of free energy as follows:

Dangle a pipe from the surface of a suitably deep lake or ocean. At the bottom place electrodes so that evolved gasses rise into the pipe. This causes a rising current of water in the pipe. As the pipe nears the surface the bubbles expand and more will come out of solution resulting in a more boisterous effect. At the surface there will be a geyser of water and gas. Reclaim the energy in the gasses to help power the electrodes and insert a turbine to tap the energy of the rising column of water to supply the losses and export the rest.

Basic principle
Energy flow schematic

One possible configuration		 Just suppose for sake of argument that we were able to reclaim all of the energy in the gasses to feed a 100% efficient electrolysis system. We would have a closed cycle which somehow ‘creates' surplus energy as a side effect. Where is this energy coming from? One way of looking at the rising column is that it is less dense than the surrounding water and so is forced up by hydrostatic pressure which is an effect of gravity. The work done by a buoyant gas near the surface is about 10KJ for every metre depth per cubic metre of gas. This is a maximum figure though but just suppose your electrolysis plant was producing 1 litre of gas per second over a 10 metre depth this would develop something less than 100W, double the depth and roughly double the power. The raw (and maximum) figure, without taking losses and effects of dissolved hydrogen for a 1Km pipe is 9KW per gas litre generated per second. The sums and unknowns are too tough for me to go beyond these back of envelope calculations, and there are of course serious losses but the bottom line is that if electrolysis works at pressure then gravity will do the rest.
There is plenty of scope for some experimentation to see what happens at depth and if sea water is a suitable fluid or whether a closed system say running up a mountain side is economic. There is plenty of scope for imagining various configurations of pipes and energy extraction methods. Happy ‘free' energy hunting.
  • This system is the exact inverse of magically condensing water at the top of a mountain and using it in a hydro-electric scheme. How do you get the raw material up there? ... by piping it up using its own bouyancy from an electrolysis set at the bottom ... and don't forget to generate electricity at the top as well. In this configuration electrolysis is at atmospheric pressure and turbines are single phase.
  • The initial energy calculations should be very easy for a competent person to do using ball-park figures.
  • This could be used for refrigeration as the expanding gasses will extract heat from their surroundings.
  • The multi-phase column has simplicity in its favour but is a tricky engineering problem.
  • A prudent method might be to keep the evolved gasses separate.
  • A closed-loop mountain-side system might be a better than an open ocean
PLEASE let me know if it will work

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